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Worthy Christian News » Documents link latest Gaza Flotilla Organizers to Terror

by Joseph DeCaro, Worthy News Correspondent

Gaza StripJERUSALEM, ISRAEL (Worthy News)– Although organizers of the Gaza flotilla claim they have no connection to terror, IDF military intelligence has evidence that reveals flotilla organizers received significant funding from groups that support Hamas and other terrorist groups.

The flotilla is being funded in part by three Islamic charities from the Hamas-affiliated Charity Coalition. Among these three charities is the European Campaign to End the Siege, a UK-based umbrella organization that openly supports Hamas; most of its organizations, founded as Muslim Brotherhood branches in Europe, are participating in the 2011 Gaza flotilla.

The Swiss-based Droit Pour Tous and the Italian-based ABSPP are openly involved in Hamas charities as well as efforts to illegally break the naval blockade on Gaza; Droit Pour Tous is also sponsoring several Swiss members of parliament sailing with the flotilla.

An IDF raid on Hamas offices in PA controlled cities yielded numerous correspondence and bank records showing ABSPP financial support to Hamas front organizations in Italy; the funds were distributed in monthly payments to families of suicide bombers, prisoners and other Hamas terrorists.

One prominent leader of the current flotilla to Gaza, Amin Abou Ibrahim, also known as Amin Abou Rashed, was implicated during the US government's prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation in 2007 when he was acting as a representative of the Al-Aqsa Foundation; the foundation was characterized by the US Department of Treasury as "a critical part of Hamas' terrorist support infrastructure."

Today, Israel still maintains a blockade of Gaza to stop Hamas from arming itself by sea; Hamas has already been caught attempting to smuggle weapons, including rockets and sophisticated missiles, into Gaza by sea.

"Israel has the full right to operate against efforts to smuggle missiles, rockets and other weapons to Hamas's terror enclave," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently said at a graduation ceremony of IAF pilots. "Hamas is a ruthless enemy who maliciously harms our cities and children."

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  • George Whitten
    6 July 2011 at 9:16 am - Reply

    I'm always amazed how this NEVER gets reported by the main stream media.

  • George Whitten
    6 July 2011 at 9:16 am - Reply

    I'm always amazed how this NEVER gets reported by the main stream media.

  • STEVE BROWN
    6 July 2011 at 9:16 am - Reply

    Who believes Israel   –  anyway? 

    The whole nation was built on lies

  • STEVE BROWN
    6 July 2011 at 9:16 am - Reply

    Who believes Israel   –  anyway? 

    The whole nation was built on lies

  • STEVE BROWN
    6 July 2011 at 9:17 am - Reply

    Who believes Israel anyway?

    the whole nation was founded on lies and theft of land. 

    • George Whitten
      6 July 2011 at 9:23 am - Reply

      I always find it interesting that people still believe this.  There has always been a indigenous Jewish population in Israel, and it's the promised land to the descendants of Issac.  

      If you are fighting a homeland for the Jewish people being in Israel, then you're fighting against the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.  Do you really want to fight Him? 

    • George Whitten
      6 July 2011 at 10:54 am - Reply

      I just posted up a video detailing the San Remo Mandate.  Have you ever heard of it?  If not, I suggest watching this 6 minute video detailing a decision that was made in 1920 by the League of Nations.

      http://www.georgewhitten.com/san-remo-mandate

      • Paxetlux
        8 July 2011 at 10:10 pm -

        "Representatives of the great powers who triumphed in World War I met… to divide the Middle Eastern lands they conquered." That says it all. A bunch of imperialists under the aegis of the "League of Nations" get together to decide who gets the spoils.

        Please don't use the Bible to justify a purely political move by an organization that sought to nullify national sovereignty (as the UN does today).

        Re the flotilla: as Christians we ought to be cheering any attempt to bring relief to victims caught in the ugly crossfire of fundamentalists on both sides. THAT is the way of Christ, who was never an apologist for Jewish excesses… 

      • George Whitten
        9 July 2011 at 5:40 am -

        The fundamental problem in Gaza is the fact that a terrorist organization RUNS Gaza!  Let's not forget that!  Tell me Paxetlux, how many Protestant Churches are in the entire Gaza Strip?  I'll tell you how many — 1!  That's right 1 church in the ENTIRE Gaza strip of 1.4 million people! 

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Baptist_Church

        Do you know why?  Because a terrorist organization runs GAZA!

      • Raj
        10 July 2011 at 7:06 pm -
    • George Whitten
      6 July 2011 at 10:54 am - Reply

      I just posted up a video detailing the San Remo Mandate.  Have you ever heard of it?  If not, I suggest watching this 6 minute video detailing a decision that was made in 1920 by the League of Nations.

      http://www.georgewhitten.com/san-remo-mandate

    • Raj
      6 July 2011 at 4:47 pm - Reply

      Yup I agree Steve. Some Christians just can't seem to understand what REALLY took place on the cross. They won't keep the commandments, claiming 'legalism' – yet these people will 'legalise' this OLD Israel. By doing this they deny the cross – which has done away with old Israel and created a new spiritual Israel – and as for these returning so called 'Jews' – where does it NOT say in the KJV 1611 Bible (all others are fakes), that the Lord Jesus Christ helped Israel WHEN they returned and OBEYED his commandments – these so called Jews are killing and denying Christ bunch of whoremongers – please don't forget Satan the dog has his own false 'jesus/s', his own false bible/s, his own false jewish/israeli people and he being the false 'to be' throned god – its a massive end-time setup – don't sleep walk into it – read your KJV bible – and if someone tells you to support the jews – ask that person – can you give me full and complete bible study you have done on the Jews and Israel that contains every related scripture from the beginning to the end of the bible and guess what NOT ONE OF THESE 'BIG MOUTH' JEW LOVERS HAS DONE ONE – thats the proof i need – they won't provide that because that kind of study would take 3 years to do and none of these big mouths will present one. Ask for a complete bible study from any so called Christian if they make any claim – 99% of these people are just big mouths – no evidence bible study (provide a short study is uesless – demand a complete end to end scripture proof study or tell them to shut-up) . This way you protect yourself from being decieved. The man who says he will never be – is alreadfy decieved. Our help is in Jesus Christ alone and in his Word by prayer and fasting with a humble heart and a meek spirt – in the ONE and ONLY gospel the Apostles preached.

      • George Whitten
        6 July 2011 at 5:00 pm -

        Raj — there's so many scriptures that point to the FACT that God is not finished with the Jewish People!  Let's just take a look at a "few" Scriptures since you're adamant about a Bible study.  :)

        Rom 11:11  I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Rom 11:12  Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? 

        Rom 11:17  And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Rom 11:18  Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Rom 11:19  Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Rom 11:20  Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: Rom 11:21  For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Rom 11:22  Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Rom 11:23  And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24  For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Rom 11:25  For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Rom 11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Rom 11:27  For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Rom 11:28  As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. 

      • Raj
        7 July 2011 at 10:14 pm -

        Yes, the statement “salvation is of the jews” is a
        curse against them ([KJV1611] Joh
        4:22
        Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for saluation
        is of the Iewes. ) and ([KJV1611] Joh
        4:23
        But the houre commeth, and now is, when the true worshippers shall
        worship the Father in spirit, and in trueth: for the Father seeketh
        such to worship him.) –
        they rejected the son of God, otherwise all we gentiles were doomed.
        But maybe God chose these stiff-necked people for this reason. But no
        gentile is perfect, me least of all. Yes, what glory if a Jew whom
        the kingdom was ORIGINALLY prepared would turn and be grafted in to
        his place – but no one is going to force him/her and as scripture
        has prophetically told – THE MAJORITY WILL NOT ENTER – only a
        REMANT will be saved (please note this is also true for ALL saved
        people – many will come, but few will enter ([KJV1611]
        Mat
        22:14
        For many are called, but few are chosen.) .
        The Jews cursed themselves and chose Satan over Christ when they
        chose Barrabas the murderer ([KJV1611] Mat
        27:21
        The Gouernour answered, and said vnto them, Whether of the twaine
        will ye that I release vnto you? They said, Barabbas. )
        and declared of Christ forced death – an innocent man who committed
        no crime “ let his blood be on us and our children” ([KJV1611]
        Mat
        27:25
        Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on vs, and on
        our children.)-
        this means all generations of Jewish children to come – right to
        the last one, even those who were born at that time or conceived in
        the whom because the elders who had authority over the Jews took that
        vow. So the Jews are cursed to follow Satan and worship him (this is
        the blindness). Of course – Christ CAN and WIL save ANY JEW willing
        to repent because he became a curse and also defeated Satan on the
        cross ([KJV1611] Mal
        3:7
        Euen from the dayes of your fathers yee are gone away from mine
        ordinances, and haue not kept them: returne vnto me, and I will
        returne vnto you, saith the Lord of hosts: But ye said, Wherein shall
        we returne? ).
        Secondly, this prophetic curse shall come to pass when Jesus Christ
        comes to destroy these the Jews who reject him: ([KJV1611]
        Mat
        21:40
        When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto
        those husbandmen? Mat
        21:41
        They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and
        will let out his
        vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in
        their seasons. ). ([KJV1611] Mat
        21:43
        Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from
        you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. )

        Even
        with the 1000 year rule of Christ – those who are alive, of people
        will enter the same way through repentance and not by force but
        grace. God changes not.

        “ And
        so all Israel shall be saved” – lets NOT get this scripture out of
        context please. This Israel God is talking about is the all those who
        who were saved under the old covenant (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses,
        Elijah) and the new Covenant. Since, Christ' Resurrection the New
        Covenant has been in effect and the old covenant was done away with.
        Now if you insist this is the fleshly Israel then your going to have
        to dig up all those Israelites that came of Egypt and God destroyed
        in the wilderness – not part of God's plan. 'All Israel” means
        all those who are in Christ Jesus, even those saved under the old
        Covenant were saved in Christ Jesus – because the Lord God of
        Israel has always been Jesus Christ and no one else. hence
        Christians (whose Lord God is Jesus Christ) are the modern day Israel
        (Jacob was a peoples). Please
        understand there is ONLY ONE NARROW PATH and that is Christ Jesus:
        ([KJV1611] Rev
        12:17
        And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make warre with
        the remnant of her seed, which keepe the Commaundements of God, and
        haue the testimony of Iesus Christ.)

        Two
        other points to wet your pen on: The Jews have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
        NEW TESTAMENT – THUS THE NEW COVENANT – The New Testament was
        written by CHRISTIANS – ABOUT CHRISTIANS. All the writers of the
        New Testament WERE SPIRIT FLLED BORN-AGAIN CHRISTAINS – none were
        Jewish. Yes, some may have formally been Jewish – but once they
        were born-again they were 'transformed' and became a 'new man' in
        Christ. JESUS CHRIST WAS THE FIRST CHRISTIAN – if I may humbly say
        of our glorious Lord. ([KJV1611]
        Col
        3:10
        And haue put on the new man, which is renued in knowledge, after the
        image of him that created him, Col
        3:11
        Where there is neither Greeke, nor Iew, circumcision, nor
        vncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond, nor free: but Christ is
        all, and in all. )

        As
        for the COLOR of the Jewish race – this is also in question when
        you consider:

        Was Moses – BLACK!
        and NOT white/pale skinned and the answer is a resounding YES:
        here is the proof:1: Pharaoh ordered ALL Hebrew boys to be
        murdered after birth – Moses was adopted – but the Egyptians are
        BLACK/DARK SKINNED NOT WHITE people – HOW DID PHAROAH AND HIS
        SERVANTS NOT RECOGNISE THIS 'WHITE JEW' BOY!!! – were they
        colour blind!2: Moses wife 'to be' and sisters told their father,
        "an Egyptian helped us" – Egypt was a world power and
        EVERYONE knew what an Egyptian LOOKED LIKE.3: God told Moses to
        put his hand in his coat and it turned WHITE AS SNOW – although
        deceptively Satan has hid the true meaning of leprosy in modern
        dictionaries – it's real meaning is revealed in the bible – when the
        SKIN TURNS WHITE FROM BLACK. God would not have performed a SUBTLE
        miracle – it had to be dramatic and UNDENIABLE – MOSES SKIN TUNED
        FROM BLACK TO WHITE ON HIS HAND.4: Egypt is in AFRICA – ALL
        Africans are BLACK/DARK SKINNED people (South Africa is 95% BLACK) –
        check out the big lips, big noses and big eyes of the mummy's of
        Egypt – AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND PHARAOH WAS BLACK, HENCE HIS
        DAUGHTER.

      • George Whitten
        7 July 2011 at 10:35 pm -

        Read Romans 11:1 closely.  Paul doesn't describe himself as a "Christian", but rather a JEW!

        Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

        Paul described himself as a Jew from the tribe of Benjamin.  And clearly points out that God is NOT finished with the Jewish people.  To say otherwise is contradicting what the Bible says.

        Think about this point:  If God is sovereign, and He allowed the nation of Israel to be REFORMED again after 2000 years — there must be a reason why!  Just seeing ISRAEL on a map ought to be a clue to you that God is not finished with the Jewish people.  And soon we'll see the outpouring of God's spirit once again upon His people.

        Ezekiel 37:8  And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

        God prophesied there would be a PHYSICAL restoration of Israel before a SPIRITUAL restoration of Israel.  The word BREATH here is the word RUACH, from which we derive the term Spirit!

        Ezekiel 37:9-10  Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.  So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

         

      • George Whitten
        6 July 2011 at 5:01 pm -

        Of course the NEW COVENANT is found in Jeremiah and discusses not only the NEW covenant, but it's relationship with the Jewish people!

        Jeremiah 31:31-37  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:  Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:  But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.  Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.   Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

      • Raj
        7 July 2011 at 10:13 pm -

        I get this
        scripture being quoted by all the false Jew lovers – this covenant
        is NOT being given to the old FLESHLY Jews or the old FLESHLY Israel
        – God is prophesying about a covenant he will establish in Christ
        Jesus – AFTER THE RESURECTION – A NEW SPIRITUAL EVERLASTING
        COVENANT. Which was established in Christ Jesus and it can only be
        received by being SPIRITUALY BORN-AGAIN in JESUS CHRIST. The is only
        ONE WAY and that through repentance and the remission of sins in the
        blood of Jesus Christ shed on the cross. No fleshly Jew or fleshly
        Israelite can get in by JUST BEING BORN INTO A RACE – God has no
        favourites ([KJV1611] Act
        10:35
        But in euery nation, he that feareth him, and worketh righteousnesse,
        is accepted with him. ). There is
        only one way and ONE DOOR – Jesus Christ is the door and to enter
        into this covenant one must accept Jesus Christ as Lord, God and
        Saviour and repent and confess their sins before him ([KJV1611]
        Joh
        10:9
        I am the doore by me if any man enter in, he shall be saued, and
        shall goe in and out, and find pasture. )The majority of Jews (not all) have rejected Christ (please note
        Jesus Christ was a Jew). As I said before the spirit of witchcraft
        woven in legalism is at work in those who glory fleshly Israel. No
        one has to sweat to understand these scripture – it is revealed by
        the grace in Christ through the holy ghost in whom we are sealed
        forever unto salvation. ([KJV1611] Rom
        3:20
        Therefore by the deedes of the Law, there shall be iustified in his
        sight: for by the Law is the knowledge of sinne. ) and
        ([KJV1611]
        1Co
        1:29
        That
        no flesh
        should glory in his presence. )

      • George Whitten
        7 July 2011 at 10:25 pm -

        Of course, a Jew cannot enter into the Kingdom because he's simply a Jew.  Where would you ever get that idea? 

        But this doesn't negate the fact that God has a prophetic future ahead for the Jewish people and they will be re-grafted in — as a nation again in the future. 

        When will this take place?  When they see HIM face to face — Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

    • Joe DeCaro
      7 July 2011 at 12:15 am - Reply

      How exactly can you steal what God has permanently given you (Gen. 17:8)?

      • Yas
        7 July 2011 at 1:39 am -

        there is no evidence that jews lived in former Palestine so how can you all of a sudden claim its yours..  After the war you decide to pursue the Torah?

      • George Whitten
        7 July 2011 at 7:45 am -
      • Joe DeCaro
        7 July 2011 at 2:46 pm -

        No evidence? There's an entire "Testament" of written evidence that Jews lived in ancient Israel.

  • STEVE BROWN
    6 July 2011 at 9:17 am - Reply

    Who believes Israel anyway?

    the whole nation was founded on lies and theft of land. 

  • Don3
    6 July 2011 at 9:58 am - Reply

    The "humanitarians" do not go to Sudan or Chechnya because there are no reporters in either place. Israel represents a swarm of the foreign reporters from all over the world. It is under the 24/7 microscope. Jews are news. Most Europeans don't understand how the people who they forced into the gas chambers only 65 years ago built one of the most prosperous and advanced states in the world. 6 wars, 2 intifadas and the countless terrorist attacks later the Jews managed to turn the misfortune of the ugly Middle Eastern neighborhood into a success without gas or oil. The European hatred of Israel is a part of the European cultural DNA which they together with the Arab adversaries exported to Asia, Africa and South America.

  • Don3
    6 July 2011 at 9:58 am - Reply

    The "humanitarians" do not go to Sudan or Chechnya because there are no reporters in either place. Israel represents a swarm of the foreign reporters from all over the world. It is under the 24/7 microscope. Jews are news. Most Europeans don't understand how the people who they forced into the gas chambers only 65 years ago built one of the most prosperous and advanced states in the world. 6 wars, 2 intifadas and the countless terrorist attacks later the Jews managed to turn the misfortune of the ugly Middle Eastern neighborhood into a success without gas or oil. The European hatred of Israel is a part of the European cultural DNA which they together with the Arab adversaries exported to Asia, Africa and South America.

  • Vladivanov
    6 July 2011 at 10:04 am - Reply

    The enemies of Israel dont want to look at the Middle East objectively. The 22 Nazi-like Arab states which persecute women, incarcerate the gays, use nepotism and corruption, subdue the aspirations of the people via the most horrific methods of the Arab secret services want to divert the attention from them to the Jewish democracy.

  • Guest
    6 July 2011 at 10:06 am - Reply

    Palestine = Hamastan = Hezbollastan =al-Qaida = Islamic Jihad = enemies of the USA.

  • Just
    7 July 2011 at 3:50 pm - Reply

    Why try and break the siege of Gaza?

    The Palestinians are suffering, beyond the comprehension of most Americans and it is only the Americans who can help them.

    Israel are making the Palestinians suffer through a calculated and wicked process of attrition that seeks to deny them the basic of human rights. Rights such as , what they may eat, what news papers they may read, what toys they may buy their children, what building materials they may have to rebuild their homes and businesses destroyed by Israel.

    Note the word "calculated" their are minds at work which seek to control every aspect of the Palestinians lives and there is more, let me enlighten some Americans of the utmost of wickedness, that is, not only does Israel control what the Palestinians may eat, what food types they may consume, Israel has worked out the "minimal" amount of food a person needs to sustain themselves, Israel has worked out on paper the amount of food the Palestinians need, just enough not so to starve them to death, but enough to make their lives intolerable.

    We treat our prisoners with more respect than Israel treats it's neighbors.

    Jewish peace activists>

    http://www.gisha.org/index.php?intLanguage=2&intItemId=2050&intSiteSN=113

    Israelis control of food stuffs>

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7545636.stm

    you want to see what Palestine used to look like before Israel invaded?

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0kPnkMjPG6U/SsR9VW1qlMI/AAAAAAAAACA/SnPioMHbOJM/s1600/landmap1.jpg

    Please educate yourselves before condemning the Palestinians to further punishment and humiliation!

    • George Whitten
      7 July 2011 at 4:02 pm - Reply

      Is Hamas in charge of the governmental operations in the Gaza Strip?  Are they a terrorist organization?

      So the question you should be asking yourself, why would ANY country support an organization that seeks your DESTRUCTION?

      And if you think I'm being opinionated, just look at Wikipedia.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

      The Hamas Charter (or Covenant), issued in 1988, outlined the organization's position on many issues at the time, identifies Hamas as the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and declares its members to be Muslims who "fear God and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors." The charter states "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.

      • Just
        7 July 2011 at 4:24 pm -

        Dear George,

        Hamas are a deeply unpleasant organization, as explained very well by a highly respected Jewish MP in Great Britain who also happens to be a Knight of the Realm, Sir Gerald Kaufman> Please take the time to listen to this man speak.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsT5wAPyaNE

        Is there any justification to treat fellow human beings with such distain and cruelty, treat a population worse than any good man or woman would treat an animal because that is how Israel treats the Palestinians, like animals, locked away, punished and deprived of a dignified existence.
        No, not me, I would not treat my worse enemy like Israel treats the Palestinians whom have nothing left but their self respect.I am not against Israel's existence, I am against Israel's treatment of others and it's continued treatment of the Palestinians has to be one of the most despicable acts of cruelty in modern history.

      • George Whitten
        7 July 2011 at 4:53 pm -

        Do you realize that the majority of Palestinians in Jerusalem — don't want to live under Palestinian Authority rule?  But they'd rather live under Israeli rule!  It's not Israel that is the problem — it's the leadership of the Palestinians.  Until they choose a REAL path of PEACE, then the problems will persist.

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/would-east-jerusalem-arabs-rather-be-citizens-of-israel-or-palestine-1.336758

        (and this is reported by Ha'aretz which happens to be owned by the same parent company as the International Herald Tribune — which is part of the NY Times)

      • George Whitten
        7 July 2011 at 5:12 pm -

        Just so you know where I'm coming from.  I live in the Israeli town of Arad about 20 miles west of the Dead Sea.  Our town is completely SURROUNDED by Muslims.  There's probably 35 or so Bedouin villages and not a single one of these towns has a CHECKPOINT!  They all live and reside in peace with Israelis, and yet they are all Muslims.  When I stand in line at the post office, I'm often standing in line with several Muslims and I don't feel threatened because these are Muslims that have chosen to live in peace.  So the idea that Israel wants to "suppress" Arabs is non-sense — they are only PROTECTING themselves, just as any society that believes in freedom.

      • Just
        7 July 2011 at 7:54 pm -

        George,

        I am not disputing there are peaceful Muslims that live in Israel however, the point in question are the 1.5 million Muslims in Gaza and the 3.5 Million Muslims who live in the west bank whom do not want to live under Israeli rule and why should they, what about them?

        Where do we go from here? What is going to happen to those people? Will Israel eventually submit to international and legal pressure and permit them their own state or will Israel keep eating away at their land?

        What is the solution to the Israel/Palestinian issue? I am unsure, please tell me what you think as to how to resolve this problem because I have a genuine and real desire to understand and perhaps help, what is the answer George?

        Just for the record, no matter what some Israelis believe, Israel is not going to be destroyed and the world is not against Israel, just against the ill treatment of others so I shouldn't concern yourself with that gloomy outlook, I would be more concerned about internal issues.

        http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4088011,00.html

        Regards

      • George Whitten
        7 July 2011 at 8:12 pm -

        From a Biblical perspective, the land belongs to the Jews.  However, according to the Torah, anyone who is willing to live with you in peace, the Jews must accept them.  But at the same time the foreigner must understand that if wants to live within the borders of Israel then he's decided to live under Israeli rule and law. 

        For those who cannot accept this, then let them move to any of the 20+ Arab nations that surround Israel and let the UN / EU / US / Israel flip the bill so they can begin their lives out of the refugee camps. 

        Most Palestinians already have Jordanian citizenship (since most of the West Bank was formerly Jordan before the 1967 war), but this is rarely talked about as Arab nations are using the Palestinians as pawns against the Jews.

      • Just
        7 July 2011 at 9:08 pm -

        Thank you for your reply George, poignant and to the point.

        I wonder how on earth the situation will be resolved? One state solution and population control based on religious or ethnic identity to maintain the Jewishness of the state, or a two state solution or another way?
        Glad I don't have to make the big decisions! That said, I believe the two state solution is the most probable way forward because there is one thing for sure, the Palestinians are not going to accept anything less and people like yourself (Whom I wholeheartedly disagree with but respect) are equally not going to give up any ground!

        Religion, caused quite a few problems in the past and continues to this day!

        Regards

      • Just
        7 July 2011 at 5:25 pm -

        George, 

        Haaretz are a very respected media group, probably one of the best in Israel, here is another view on the situation from the same news agency>>

        http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/siege-of-gaza-has-become-a-moral-blockade-of-israel-1.371516

        And another from the respected BBC>

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/25/newsid_4167000/4167929.stm

        One more from Haaretz>

        http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/a-racist-messianic-rabbi-is-the-ruler-of-israel-1.370554

        I am always very wary of people whom seek to cast the entire weight of blame to one side.
        The Palestinian/Israeli issue dates back more than 60 years as I have previously stated and it is a myth to believe that Hamas are to blame for the long suffering of the Palestinians, it is also wrong, amoral and wicked to punish an entire population of people, 1.5 million, for the actions of a few. 

        So who is to blame? The British in part, Hamas to some small extent but, the vast majority of suffering inflicted on the Palestinians in Gaza can be leveled at Israel, as we can see by the amount of UN resolutions against Israel, more than any country in the modern history of the UN, over one thousand to date>

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

        Defend Israel by all means, but please do not pretend that it is the Palestinians fault for their sufferings, that would not only be ludicrous but also a lie.

        GAZA>

        http://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=780&q=gaza&gbv=2&oq=gaza&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1948l2483l0l4l3l0l0l0l0l214l378l2.0.1l3

      • George Whitten
        7 July 2011 at 5:53 pm -

        The first article you posted was an OPINION piece, not an news article.
        The second article you posted was an EXTREMIST publication that doesn't get any real traction in Israel, and most Israelis find it pathetic.

        As far as the problems are concerned — what happened before the INTIFADAs were concerned in Gaza?  Did you know that Israelis used to frequent Gaza beaches and eat at the fish restaurants?  It was a vacation spot before Arafat!

        As far as the UN resolutions, is it any wonder that Bible prophecy is being fulfilled when it says that in the last days ALL nations will be against Israel.

        Zechariah 14:2  For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

  • Paxetlux
    8 July 2011 at 9:49 pm - Reply

    Give me a break… I came to this site to follow news of persecution of Christians and I find propaganda supporting Israel's ongoing persecution of Palestinians. The flotilla is attempting to bring aid to innocent, brutalized people. If there are concerns of aid to terrorist organizations, a thorough search of the vessels would reveal any weapons or bombs.

    • George Whitten
      9 July 2011 at 5:43 am - Reply

      "Israel's "ongoing persecution" of the Palestinians!"

      That's the real propaganda!

      • Joe DeCaro
        10 July 2011 at 6:15 pm -

        George, even the "Pals" are propaganda!

        "There is no such thing as a Palestinian people … It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."– Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

      • Raj
        10 July 2011 at 6:31 pm -
      • Joe DeCaro
        11 July 2011 at 1:40 am -

        Playing the race card Raj?

        "Palestinian" isn't a race; it's supposed to be a nationality, even though there was never an historical palestinian nation ruled by a palestinian king with a distinctive palestinian language or culture.

        Perhaps you can also explain how the late Yasar Arafat — who was born in Cairo — was also "palestinian," despite having an Egyptian father, or is Arafat's actual birthplace and paternal lineage just more Zionist hypocrisy?

      • Raj
        27 July 2011 at 2:52 am -

        Race CARD defused: JESUS CHRIST the Lord God of Israel made ALL men on earth that have ever lived of ONE BLOOD (except Christ for his blood was 'precious' [1Pe 1:19]) .
        Hence, I am not playimg the race card – but maybe I can be correctly accused of playing the 'skin' card!

        [KJV 1611] Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men, for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation:

        [KJV 1611] Act 17:27  That they should seeke the Lord, if haply they might feele after him and finde him, though he be not farre from euery one of vs.
        (Hence one man/nation cannot war with another man/nation and say they are doing God a service – this is all the those dumb Christians cheering for the RICH Jews as they batter the POOR muslims, even thou we are not to show favor to the rich against the poor!)
        Yasar Arafat – was a sodmite/queer – the russians have tapes of him and his bodyguard at it! after that revelation no one wants to attached to that crypto jew!

        Arafat  gay (died if AIDS) – http://www.betar.co.uk/articles/betar1100400106.php
        Arafat  gay – http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2858/more-evidence-yasser-arafat-was-gay/
        Arafat Jew – http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1080174/posts

    • Joe DeCaro
      9 July 2011 at 8:57 pm - Reply

      The flotilla is attempting to bring weapons and construction materials for bunkers into Gaza by bypassing the checkpoints on land; the cargo of the flotilla's ships are NOT being searched, which is why they are attempting to run the IDF naval blockade.

  • Paxetlux
    8 July 2011 at 10:14 pm - Reply

    "Today, Israel still maintains a blockade of Gaza to stop Hamas from
    arming itself by sea; Hamas has already been caught attempting to
    smuggle weapons, including rockets and sophisticated missiles, into Gaza
    by sea."

    On a per capita basis, Israel has more WMDs than just about any nation on earth… all sanctioned by our rogue government, of course!

  • matt
    9 July 2011 at 5:59 pm - Reply

    israel blongs to the jews, 2.000 years  of history been made in that land first the Canaanites own that land than the israelits conqued it. because god gave them that land into there hands. palestine is just a made up word from arabs and assyrians. from the british mandate.

    • Raj
      27 July 2011 at 2:34 am - Reply

      [KJV 1611] Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men, for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation:
      [KJV 1611] Act 17:27  That they should seeke the Lord, if haply they might feele after him and finde him, though he be not farre from euery one of vs.
      (Hence one man/nation cannot war with another man/nation and say they are doing God a service – this is all the those dumb Christians cheering for the RICH Jews as they batter the POOR muslims, even thou we are not to show favor to the rich against the poor!)
      (P.S.
      I know the Lord is right, but if the bounds of the French habitation
      could have been placed somehwere in the north pole – half of Europes
      problems wouldn't exist!)

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