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Vatican: Atheists still going to Hell

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Monday, June 3, 2013 (1:09 am) | Worthy News / Christian

By Joseph DeCaro, Worthy News Correspondent

VATICAN CITY (Worthy News)– A Vatican spokesman explained Thursday that atheists are still going to perdition despite Pope Francis' homily last week that proclaimed all of us, even atheists, were capable of doing good.

"Doing good," the pope said, "is a duty … that our Father has given to all of us, because He has made us in His image and likeness. And He does good, always."

But in an explanatory note, the Rev. Thomas Rosica wrote that Pope Francis didn't intend to spark a theological debate about the nature of salvation by his homily.

Rosica advised his fellow Romans to refer to the Catechism of the Catholic Church to better understand the Church's teaching on who will be saved and how.

"Christ will judge with the power he has gained as the Redeemer of the world who came to bring salvation to all …," wrote Rosica. "The one Church of Christ … subsists in (subsistit in) the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and the bishops in communion with him. Only through this Church can one obtain the fullness of the means of salvation since the Lord has entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone whose head is Peter."

And since all salvation "comes from Christ, the Head, through the Church which is his body … they cannot be saved who, knowing the Church as founded by Christ and necessary for salvation, would refuse to enter her, or remain in her …"

In other words, there is no salvation for anyone, including atheists and Christians of other denominations that are outside of the Roman Catholic Church.

In his homily, however, Pope Francis declared that everyone, including atheists, have been redeemed by Christ so that all can work together to do good.

"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ," said Francis. "All of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!"

Well, perhaps not everyone, at least not according to everyone working in the Vatican.

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  • ort
    3 June 2013 at 7:51 am - Reply

    Where in God's Word does it say you need to be a Roman Catholic, and not from any other denomination, to be saved???? What tripe!

    • RDH
      6 June 2013 at 1:01 pm - Reply

      Amen !!!!!!

  • ThePorter
    3 June 2013 at 8:54 am - Reply

    At first I was relieved because I don't want to have to share heaven with all my heathen friends, but then I was like "oh, snap! Because it looks like they are going to have to share hell with me, a lowly Anglican."

    • ort
      6 June 2013 at 1:46 pm - Reply

      It is not the denomination that saves or condemns. You must "believe in the One He has sent" and "if you do not believe I am He, you will die in your sins."

    • Sigfried Hoodinni
      10 June 2013 at 8:34 pm - Reply

      The pope is not God (if I remember correctly one pope did actually make that blasphemous claim). Also the RCC church had three popes at one time lol. The pope is not a mediator between God and men either for as the Bible says "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus". Christ's true Church is the body of believers scattered throughout various denominations(Which probably includes yours). The tares among the wheat (Fake Christians) are also scattered throughout the various denominations(Including yours).
      However your denomination has preserved some of the heretical teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. I strongly advise you to find a Bible Believing Church. Make shore you check you Churches teachings with scripture.

      • albertcooper
        11 June 2013 at 9:09 am -

        The Pope is the successor of the apostle St.Peter,ordained by Jesus Christ ,God made man…..and not some man ,some heretic !

      • ALFONSO BARRAGAN
        13 June 2013 at 1:47 am -

        Sigfried: you, so called Christians are good at quoting Scripture. but terrible at living his word,,, there is only one Church, The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. your father Martin Luther stated your Church… Also if it were not by the Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit you would not be holding the New Testament, in your hand,, The Catholic Church Gives more money to the poor and needy then any other organizations in the world… your money goes to your pastor for his own profit,, so give him your money and live us alone, Because you all are preaching the false Gospel of prosperity,, robbing from the poor so pastors drive fancy cars ,, and live in Mansions, ect;////

        We Believe Jesus is the only one that Saves…

      • ort
        9 August 2013 at 10:19 am -

        No such thing as a Catholic until 300 A.D.
        The church was JEWISH for the first 12 years until the Gentiles were added in. I suggest reading history rather than listening to the fables of the RCC. "Come out of her, my people!"

      • Aaron David
        13 August 2013 at 10:57 am -

        We aren't all protestants, you know. There was another line from Antioch, and was the real church that the RCC hunted and tortured and murdered some 65 million of our number before THERE WERE PROTESTASNTS! But Christ prevailed through us and PRESERVED His PURE word through us. Even protestants killed some of us. We were called Christians first in Antioch, not Alexandria!!!!! This is the RCC according to God's word! -

        18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

        Revelation

        Chapter 18

        1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

        2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

        3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

        4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

        5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

        6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

        7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

        8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

        9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

        10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

        11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

        12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

        13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

        14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

        15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

        16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

        17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

        18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

        19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

        20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

        21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

        22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

        23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

        24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

        Chapter 19

        1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

      • Aaron David
        13 August 2013 at 10:48 am -

        "Vicar of Christ" is the proclamation that the Pope is God on earth.

  • Albert Cooper
    3 June 2013 at 12:38 pm - Reply

    The Roman Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ himself,the Son of God,.The doors are open for all !

    • ort
      6 June 2013 at 1:44 pm - Reply

      No, it wasn't. The Church was almost exclusively JEWISH for the first 15 years or so. How is that Roman Catholic? That came along in 300 AD with Constantine. Do you really want me to painstakingly list all the things added to the Word of God by the RCC, hundreds of years after the Bible was completed?

    • Sigfried Hoodinni
      10 June 2013 at 8:22 pm - Reply

      The RCC isn't the real Church but a counterfit. Much of what they teach isn't just unscriptural but anti-scriptural. (Which is why they banned the laity from reading the Bible and banned translating the Bible into the common tongues. You really need an honest Church History Course. Also try reading In Editha's Days, reprinted under the name The Bible Made Us Baptists. It's like the Diary of Ann Frank only it takes place during the Inquisition when true Christians where being persecuted by the Roman Church…and others. The Roman Catholic Church isn't really Christian…Christ's true Church is the body of believers scartered throughout various denominations. The tares among the wheat (Fake Christians) are also scattered throughout the various denominations. The denomination I hail from isn't protestant at all as it was never part of the Roman Church. We didn't really have a name before the inquisition. Your Church sort of gave us are name while you were rounding us up and killing us. You called us…and anyone who believed what the Bible said about baptism (that you must believe, and then be baptized) Anabaptists. Your Church also had people killed for owning Bibles, and for quoting from them.

    • ort
      9 August 2013 at 10:26 am - Reply

      "Salvation is of the Jews." The church was Jewish until years later. No such thing as a catholic until 300 A.D.
      It's just that simple.

  • Diane
    5 June 2013 at 3:31 pm - Reply

    I agree with ort that we are saved by grace "confessing with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, YOU SHALL BE SAVED."
    and NOT by good works alone.

    • Aaron David
      13 August 2013 at 10:32 am - Reply

      Wrong. Not by works AT ALL.

  • answers
    7 June 2013 at 10:33 am - Reply

    Is Rev. Thomas Rosica a Pope Francis spokesmen? LOOK IT UP, don't trust the media!

  • Sigfried Hoodinni
    10 June 2013 at 8:05 pm - Reply

    More proof that the Roman Church is not the real Church. As if the Inquisition or the fact that so much of what they teach is contrary to scripture was not enough.

  • Sigfried Hoodinni
    10 June 2013 at 8:38 pm - Reply

    My Pastor got saved a year before he left the RCC. There may be saved people in that Church, but it is not a Christian Church let alone THE Christian Church as they claim. If you guys want a good explanation of Salvation visit needGoddotcom. Also you can watch the videos True and False Conversion, and Hell's Best Kept Secret on youtube.

  • albertcooper
    11 June 2013 at 9:07 am - Reply

    Matthew Mark Luke & John….but only one Jesus Christ ,God made man,the Blessed Trinity,who at The last Supper ordained The Eucharist,and his Church with the words Though art Peter …etc….

    • Sigfried Hoodinni
      11 June 2013 at 3:13 pm - Reply

      The Eucharist? Communion is symbolic of Christ's sacrifice for us. His body was broken and His blood shed for us and we partake in communion as a outward representation of our inward acknowledgement of said sacrifice. The communion is symbolic like baptism. Christ would never condone sin let alone MAKE ONE SIN. Drinking blood is sin! It is not literal blood.
      Do we really kill are selves and rise from the dead when we are baptized? No it is symbolic of Christ killing the old man (sin) and making us a new man. It is a outward symbol of what has taken place inside of us. Oh and btw Christ said we are to believe and then be baptized. Baptism must take place after accepting Christ, something infants cannot do. Furthermore Baptism is done by immersion not by sprinkling. Also the thief on the cross didn't have the time or ability to be baptized and he is in Heaven.

      • albertcooper
        9 August 2013 at 10:44 am -

        Are you ORT posting under a different name ?

      • ort
        9 August 2013 at 5:58 pm -

        No, he is not. He is a he and I am a she. We are not the same person, I assure you.

    • Sigfried Hoodinni
      11 June 2013 at 3:16 pm - Reply

      What I just said about Baptism, that right there at one time would have had me killed by the Roman Church. They would also have had me killed for reading the Bible in English had I lived during the Inquisition. Christ warned of wolves in sheep's clothing and said you shall know them by their fruit! (Matt 7)

      • albertcooper
        11 June 2013 at 3:54 pm -

        So in your book Jesus Christ did not ordain his church ,I am sorry but you are just another protestant…go your way as I will go mine,when I receive Holy Communion I receive the body and blood of our saviour

      • Sigfried Hoodinni
        11 June 2013 at 4:33 pm -

        Oh no. He gave His Church the Great Commission and entrusted US with quite a lot. But you see the Roman Catholic Church is a counterfeit church, it is not Christ's Church. Like I said I'm not a Protestant. Some true Christians are Protestants and some Protestents are true Christians but I am not a Protestant. My denomination has never been part of the Roman Church! Protestant…that name is derived from those who left the Roman Church and did so because they saw it was corrupt and that it taught heresy, therefor they PROTESTED, by leaving. (other then the Anglican church, they left because King Henry the 8th made them. The pope wouldn't let him divorce his wife. But most if not all off the Protestant Churches kept some of the Roman heresies in their churches teachings) You see there were many real Christian denominations before the Roman Catholic Church, some are just as ancient, some are older. The original Christians didn't even have a denomination, they didn't even refer to themselves as Christians, but simply as Believers in The Way or in Christ. Some Christian denominations were heretical, some were not. There were even some cults that called themselves Christian…like the gnostics, who actually existed before the Roman Church apostated to it's current form. Now those people (gnostics) were quite ignorant which is ironic considering the fallacious meaning behind the name they called themselves.
        Now my Pastor got saved a year before he left the RCC, I believe some Catholics are saved, but I don't think one can believe everything, the Roman Church teaches and be saved. Perhaps they could, but the Roman church is a counterfeit and a fake. Much of what they teach are not only lies but contrary to scripture. Plenty of saved people who are going to go to heaven have either left that church or have never had anything to do with it in the first place. I think that in order to get saved while in that church you would have to believe things that church calls heresy.

      • albertcooper
        11 June 2013 at 4:36 pm -

        OK so you are not a protestant ! well what are you ?

      • ort
        9 August 2013 at 10:24 am -

        No, you don't. What you are saying is apostasy. Jesus died ONCE and shed His Blood ONCE! You cannot keep sacrificing Him day after day after day. That is not Biblical!
        The bread and wine are SYMBOLIC. The Bible forbids eating blood. so how could Jesus, who is God, who forbad the eating of blood in both the old and new testaments, then say it was literally His Blood?
        Answer—He didn't. It was an allegory. It is symbolic of His sacrifice.
        "Do this is REMEMBRANCE of Me."
        Why is this so difficult a concept to grasp?

      • albertcooper
        9 August 2013 at 10:40 am -

        Dear Sir you are a protestant,and I see many pushing prams around my home city stating such mis-truths with posters thereon.The Holy Roman Catholic Mass is a sacrifice with transubstanciation of the Bread & Wine to the real presence.If its your belief to the contrary then its your belief,but for billions of Roman Catholics not so

      • ort
        9 August 2013 at 5:57 pm -

        Dear sir, I am a ma'am. Not your fault, you didn't know.
        Secondly, the fallacy of transubstantiation wasn't proclaimed until 1215 A.D. by pope innocent. It is not Biblical. Read your Bible and be like the Bereans, to whom Paul preached. They didn't just take his word when he preached, but they "searched the Scriptures diligently" every day to see if what he said was correct. You must do the same. Stop listening to scripturally ignorant men and man made traditions, and read the Word of God. I say this with all earnestness and zero malice.

      • Aaron David
        13 August 2013 at 10:44 am -

        They worship the Sun, the eternally dying rising dying rising god of the mystery religions. Jesus Christ IS risen and seated at the right hand of power. Catholics cannot be reasoned with because they don't even know who they worship. They have no idea that it isn't Jesus Christ.

      • Aaron David
        13 August 2013 at 10:41 am -

        You receive a satanic lie.

      • ALFONSO BARRAGAN
        13 June 2013 at 1:50 am -

        Hes talking about your 55.000 thousand Churches, that can't even agree among your selfs, Jesus started one Church, not 55.000 thousand so who is the real wolves in sheep's clothing.

      • Aaron David
        13 August 2013 at 10:40 am -

        Not the one on seven hills, arrayed in scarlet and purple, adorned with gold and pearls, holding a golden cup full of abominations, soaked in the blood of 65 million saints, that worships idols, practices necromancy, set up the throne of Semiramis to replace God with a mere mortal, who calls a dead mortal woman the "coredemptrix" and bows to her, that's fer sure.

  • Flabby
    18 June 2013 at 9:55 pm - Reply

    What sort of being, other than evil, would allow eternal torment for misinterpreting a confusing book? The answer is simple: none. What an utter waste of time.

  • danlunche
    8 August 2013 at 6:44 pm - Reply

    The Pope sits on a throne, wears gold jewelry, lives in a castle – and he is the vicar of Christ?

  • albertcooper
    9 August 2013 at 10:42 am - Reply

    This is obviously a site for seditionists !

  • ort
    9 August 2013 at 6:15 pm - Reply

    Extra Biblical teachings of the RCC with no basis in scripture:
    1) prayers for the dead A.D. 300
    2) veneration of angels and dead saints and images A.D. 375
    3) the doctrine of purgatory, established by Gregory I A.D.593
    4) prayer directed to Mary A.D. 600
    5) title of pope, given to boniface III A.D. 607
    6) kissing the popes foot, began with Constantine A.D. 709
    7) holy water blessed by a priest A.D. 850
    8) celibacy of the priesthood, pope Gregory VII A.D. 1079
    9) sale of indulgences A.D. 1190
    10) the rosary, invented by Peter the hermit A.D. 1090
    11) TRANSUBSTANTIATION, proclaimed by pope innocent III A.D. 1215
    12) confession of sins to a priest rather than God, pope innocent III, in Lateran council A.D. 1215
    13) purgatory proclaimed a dogma by Council of Trent A.D. 1546
    14) tradition declared equal authority with the Bible, council of Trent, A.D. 1545
    15) apocryphal books added to the Bible, council of Trent, A.D. 1545
    16) immaculate conception of Mary, proclaimed by pope pius IX, A.D. 1854
    17) infallibility of the pope Vatican Council A.D. 1870
    18) assumption of Mary proclaimed by pope pius XII A.D. 1950
    19) Mary proclaimed mother of the church, pope Paul IV, A.D. 1965

    And this man made, unBiblical pack of lies is the basis of a person's faith? God have mercy!

    • ort
      13 August 2013 at 11:07 am - Reply

      Albertcooper: no response? All I hear are crickets. Do you still care to (falsely) claim this "church" is the one started by Christ? Any rebuttal?

    • ort
      14 August 2013 at 8:26 am - Reply

      So, since I'm thinking albertcooper down voted this, it is apparent he cannot stomach the facts. I gave you names, dates, and people. If you don't like this, then either refute it or else examine the false entity you are following.
      Jesus said "come out of her, my people!" For a reason. In no way am I saying every catholic isn't saved, nor am I saying every catholic IS saved. Just like not every person of every denomination is saved.

      What I am saying is that the RCC is pagan rooted at its very core, with just enough real Christianity thrown into the mix to have satisfied the populace of Rome in 300 A.D.

      It is EVERY Christian's responsibility to check the scriptures to see the truth of a matter. None of us are with excuse before God if we choose man made, unscriptural entities over His very clear Word.
      You can down vote this if you like, albertcooper, but you are no less responsible before God.

  • Aaron David
    13 August 2013 at 10:31 am - Reply

    The RCC is so deeply satanic that it's pointless to reason with people so severely blind that they don't see it.

  • Aaron David
    13 August 2013 at 10:34 am - Reply

    He's a Jesuit. Jesuits are satanists, all of them. Don't be a fool.

  • Joe DeCaro
    5 September 2013 at 5:29 pm - Reply

    Two of the three popes were anti-popes, just don't ask me which ones.
    And for the record, thanks to John XXIII and others, the RCC did finally make it into the 20th century.
    Maybe Francis can take them the rest of the way?

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