Obama Reorganizing Faith-Based Programs For "Secular Purposes"

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By Joseph DeCaro, Worthy News International Correspondent

WASHINGTON D.C., USA (Worthy News) -- United States President Barack Obama has signed an executive establishing a reorganized White House Office on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships for only "secular purposes", not evangelism, Worthy News monitored Friday, February 6.

It came over half a year after his keyJuly 2 speech in Zanesville, Ohio, where Obama said the new Office would be the "moral center" of his administration.

The Office will be led by Joshua DuBois, a 26-year-old Pentecostal minister, who headed religious outreach for Obama's Senate office and later his presidential campaign, officials said.

Obama is also expected to name 25 religious and secular leaders to an advisory board, including the Reverend Joel Hunter, senior pastor of Northland Church and Rabbi David Saperstein, director of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism.

Before signing the order, Obama attended the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C., where he said the proposed expansion of the faith-based White House office would put secular and religious groups on an even playing field. He made clear however that tax dollars directed to faith-based social service groups would be used for "only secular purposes", such as housing for the homeless, and not evangelism.

The Obama administration said it does not want  to be perceived as "micro-managing the faith-based religious groups", however it made clear it would  insist on both transparency and accountability.

During his presidential campaign, Obama pledged to allow religious institutions funded through his reorganized faith-based office to hire and fire employees based on their respective religious beliefs only for activities that are privately funded.

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16 thoughts on “Obama Reorganizing Faith-Based Programs For "Secular Purposes"”

  1. The Slide

    "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God." Hebrews 3:12

    Into Hell

    "Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." Mark 8:38

    Is Stopped

    "And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks." Acts 9:5

    When You See Jesus

    "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life." John 3:14-15

    See Jesus And Believe On Him

    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

    And Flee The Wrath Of God Shortly To Come

    "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:35-36

  2. During his presidential campaign, Obama pledged to allow religious institutions funded through his reorganized faith-based office to hire and fire employees based on their respective religious beliefs only for activities that are privately funded. Exactly, what does this mean? Does anyone care to translate that legalize into plan English? So, is mum the word or can the "Administration" monitor employees' private "activities" and fire them for their "religious" beliefs? And, Why a 26 year old heading a department like that? This is just one more reflection of Obama's "mistakes" that he will answer to whom for? That's right-ultimately, The Lord, but UNTIL then what havoc shall be reaped?

  3. How does a secular group get on an equal standing with a religious group? Is it because they both are required to pay taxes or are they both allowed to receive tax money earned and paid to the government by hard working private citizens? Adds a new perception to Land Of The Free and Home Of The Brave.

  4. The key statement in this article can be found in the second from the last sentence. The worst enemy the Democratic party, and therefore Obama has is godly men, and women, evangelical Christians sensitive to God's word, and will, who will not be silent. L.B.J knew this over thirty years ago, hence 501C, the churches sacred cow, has, and is being used to silence her in regards to her responsibility, to teach their congregations their responsibility, to vote using a biblical lenz, as opposed to a worldly veiw. Whenever you take government money, which is what the church does when the government exempts them from taxation, the government demands accountability, and transparency. In other words they will micro-manage, and dictate what the church can, and cannot do, and say.

    In my opionion this is a way to finish the job L.B.J. started. Godly men with big hearts, and little brains will fall head over heels for this continued manner of subtle back door manipulation, just as they fell into the snare of 501C. "OH! What wonderful things we can do with all the money we will save on taxes, feeding the poor, providing for the homeless in Jesus name! You know what they say; don't muzzle an oxen!" Good intentions? Probably. But Godly, by Jesus example? Hmmmmmmm. I believe Jesus ministry was entirely privately funded.

    What are the biblical examples Jesus set? Did Jesus pay taxes? Yes. Give to Caesar what is Caesars, and to God what is Gods. Did Jesus understand that feeding the hungry was the compassionate thing to do? Yes. Did Jesus also understand the food the hungry really needed wasn't material, but spiritual, and that the poor would always be with us? You betcha. What does it profit a man to gain everything this world has to offer and to lose his soul? Jesus understood this. How does it profit the kingdom, to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, house the homeless, WITHOUT communicating their ONLY real need, in accepting God's free gift of salvation in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ? Read the gospel of John, and the feeding of the 5000. If you die in a warm bed, with a full belly without Jesus, you may take the trip in the comfort of 1st. class, but hell is still your final destination. The flesh counts for NOTHING. God see's only two camps here on earth, the redeemed, and the damned.

    When the church feeds, clothes, and houses the needy with government money, they will not be able to evangelize in doing so. They will be expressly forbidden to evangelize. The Democrats have no intention of sharing the credit for compassionately meeting human needs with Jesus. Obama, and company are near perfect politicians, they excel at stealing the credit, and placing the blame. However, they are more than willing to USE the free resource of labor the churches will provide in the distribution of government food, clothing, and housing. Just don't do it in Jesus name, because it's uncle Sam's dollar, and he's taking the credit.

    The Democratic party is not comprised of fools, but primarily lawyers, how's that for devils advocacy! They intend to infiltrate their enemies camp, and divide and conquer. Satan's plan has remained unchanged from the beginning, he will pander to human weakness in covetous, and pridefull hearts, yes even in godly men. Which is why the redeemed, the children of the light have NO business yoking themselves with darkness! Don't play with fire, you will get burned!Apparently, a divinity degree is no measure of godliness, go figure! But it sure looks good on Obama's 26 yr. old's resume. Or should I say the 26 yr. old with the divinty degree sure looks good on Obama's resume?

    Is it any wonder Jesus chose fisherman, a tax collector, a zealot, etc. to advance the gospel? NO CREDENTIALS! God doesn't share His glory with anyone, and He sure doesn't need to share it with Obama, and company. I don't think He'd fancy His name on the same ticket, DO YOU? Isn't it great that the divinity majors of Jesus day took note as they drilled, and griiled His disciples that they they were uneducated men that had been with Jesus? AMEN! Give God the glory!

    In Christ our Lord

    • Well said, Chicago Joe!!! I especially like the comments about the lawyers. No, Democrats are not fools. Christians should not think that this is in any way going to be for the benefit of Bible believing Christians.

    • As a born again christian, last time I checked God was neither a republican nor ,a democrat. The idea that republican are holly than democrats, that Idea is not from God but satan. The God I serve is a God of unity not of confusion.

      There is a reason why God never gave the key to heaven to any human being because he new that we are all weak. Just imagine If God had given the power to human beings to decide who can and who cannot go to heaven. How many people would have gone to hell in the last 8 year probably all of us. As a Proud republican who thinks for her self, I think that we should give Obama a chance.

      • Fatuma, just for the record, I'm neither a Democrat, or Republican. I'm a born again Christian, who votes through the biblical lenz, NOT the worldly view. I have no intention of giving any canidate a chance who's party champions sin as the Democrats do. That is why I voted Republican. Regarding Obama, you cannot roll around in and cut your political teeth in the cesspool of Chicago Il. politicians, and survive, much less emerge without some muck, and mire having rubbed off on you. I am not that naive. However I did desire to give Obama a chance. I believe it took his first executive order to dash all hope for me of his having a miraculous change of heart, upon being elected. As far as being a proud Republican? As the party moves closer to center of left in an effort to pander for liberal votes, as opposed to standing up for what is right, it's days of my support maybe limited as well. Personally Huckabee, and Palin would be the dream ticket for me. They also happen to be Republicans. These are the only two politicians as a born again Christian I feel I'd have real confidence in leading America in a God honoring way, in these times of trial.

        Giving Obama a chance? Been there, done that, what's next? I will pray for His salvation, that is the only thing that will effect a change of heart, in which case his own party would dis-own him, the press will pummel him to a pulp, and he would come to know how George Bush felt. Doing what's right is almost never easy, or popular, but God does honor it.

        In Christ our Lord

      • I will prayerfully support our new president, but there are really no items on his "agenda" (which you can all see for yourself at whitehouse.gov) which I will support. I find it incredibly ironic that he is working to shut down Guantanamo, due to the alleged torture of terrorists who were bent on killing innocent people, but yet votes AGAINST a ban on partial birth abortion which in fact does torture an innocent human life, not to mention his support of the Freedom of Choice Act and the Fairness Doctrine. As for the whole republican/democrat thing.....I have Christian friends that I attend church with who voted for Obama. I love them dearly, but cannot understand for the life of me how a Christian could vote for a man who stands for so many things that are in direct opposition to Jesus' clear teaching in the Bible.

    • Amen ! I get confused sometimes with the politics of today. You never know who to believe. Who to trust. You either end up losing faith in any of our leaders or risk following someone with a dark heart. Your post put things in true prospective. Thank you so much for taking the time to write it here. It makes things very clear for us who are still young in our faith.
      Jesus will remain my center and the tragedies of today will be comforted by knowing he is ultimately in control of all things.

  5. Let me ask this: Why should faith-based organizations even want government money? Isn't the goal of many Christian organizations to spread Christian charity through the world and the Christian faith through the world, not to administer government charity. I think the office of Faith-Based Organizations should be abolished.

    Any time you marry government to religion, you wind up with a monstrosity. If churches and other Christian charities give only their own money, so what that they cannot do more. They are doing what they can with what they have. That is all they are responsible for. It is not their job to save the world from all of its problems. It is there job to do THEIR bit to help how THEY can.

    If they don't touch the government tap, the government can't tell them how to do what they do. Strings are always attached to money that goes out. No one ever says, "Here's a pile of money; do ANYTHING you want with it HOWEVER you want." So, as soon as Christian charities start lusting for that government money, they start finding themselves pressured to do things a little differently. They are only responsible before God to do what they can with what they have. If the government wants to come and offer them money with no strings attached because it likes what they're doing and that money is not used for the advancement of that religious group, then fine. But its easy, even then, to build up a bigger program that becomes dependent on that money. Suddenly when strings start getting attached, the institution is addicted to the money, finds it has to fire employees if it's going to stop taking the money, and the temptation is their to capitulate.

    I say, let the government do its own charity. Encourage it to do it in responsible ways, and if you truly want to administer charity that does not benefit a religious cause in any way, then work for the government. But the second you know you wouldn't be happy doing such work without the religious cause as a part of it, then you know that the faith-based money from the government really is in some way supporting the religious cause that you would be happy working for. If the government is going to benefit Christian causes, then it should and must also benefit B'hai causes and Wiccan charities and all kinds of things that many of us don't really want to see our money funneled through. Why should we, as followers of Jesus, expect others to feel any different about their money being funneled through causes they don't agree with?

    I say you cannot keep government out of religion if you do not keep government money out of religion. Bush's faith-based initiative was a bad initiative in the first place. History teaches us that any times Christians have been tempted to marry their cause to governments, it has always polluted the cause. It sometimes starts good, but always turns sour.

    • I Agree! Ever since they came up with the 501C plan to make Churches tax exempt, they have muzzled the mouths of the Pastors. The amount of tax money saved by the small Churches doesn't amount to much and it certainly is not worth giving up your freedom of speech! The only ones that will feel the impact are the mega-churches and the Televangelists. When we study the Bible, we do not see Jesus spending His time and money building any structures. We also, don't see any large Churches. What we do see is Jesus teaching the multitudes out in the open fields. Even on the day of Pentecost they were teaching in the streets. We claim to be a Christian Society, but we have lost track of what the Church truly is. The Church is the PEOPLE, not the building you assemble in. Just think of the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars we spend on upkeep and utilities for these buildings. I'm sure the amount we spend on upkeep exceeds what we would have to pay for taxes each year. If we were to start assembling from house to house as the early Church did we could save those overhead costs.
      So, let's go ahead and pay those taxes and remove the muzzle from our Pastors!
      It's time we stood up to the secular world and told them in a loving way that we have only one Master. Let's reach the world for Christ and not be forced to do things in the secular way!
      Pastor Nielsen

  6. If evangelization is prohibited under the terms of the program then it is not of God period. If the christian churches fall for this then they need eye salve and hearing aids from God's spirit...the Holy Spirit! This isn't even subtle deception! It's blatant rebellion to God's word and Christ's commandments. Jesus commanded that the gospel be preached to all nations....number 1! Yes we are to give to the needs of others...as The Lord blesses us...not the social program....the socialist government. I pray the leaders of our churches ask God for wisdom and stand obedient to Christ's commandment.....evangelize....evangelize....evangelize. Do that and God will bless the church and supply the abundance to meet the needs of others.....as it is written....."that we having all sufficiency in all things may be able to abound unto every good work" in Jesus mighty name I pray and thank those of you for the power of agreement!!!

  7. I am really praying for our country. I have one king that I worship and God is still on the throne!!!!!! HE will see us through! Let us all keep strong in our faith and always look to our ALWAYS and FOREVER for everything! Despite our times of darkness, We can still Praise in the storms. God bless everyone and let us pray for each other in the hard times that we are facing.

    • PRAISE GOD indeed, in plenty, in trials, in need. The truth of the matter is, the peaks of plenty are sweet, but it's in the darkness of the valley of need, and trial we grow. As our God uses these times to develop the kind of character in His children, that will transcend time, and carry into eternity. When I ponder His purposes, and the depth of His plan, how can I do anything else but give God the glory, and praise. Amen.

      In Christ our Lord

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