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Judge Orders Defiant Kentucky Clerk to Jail for Standing by Her Christian Beliefs
(Worthy News) - A Kentucky county clerk was jailed on Thursday for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, and a full day of court hearings failed to put an end to her two-month-old legal fight over a U.S. Supreme Court ruling upholding same-sex marriage.
U.S. District Judge David Bunning found Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis in contempt then elicited a pledge from five of her six deputies to issue the licenses. But attorneys for Davis said she would deny them that authority, raising questions about the validity of any licenses they might issue.
The 49-year-old woman, who has emerged as a darling of social conservatives, has refused to issue licenses to any couples, gay or straight, since the U.S. Supreme Court in June ruled that same-sex couples have the right to marry under the U.S. Constitution, citing her beliefs as an Apostolic Christian.
"Marriage is a union between one man and one woman," the soft-spoken Davis told the court under questioning by her attorney. [ Source ]
Amazing ... we are witnessing the Christians being jailed in the United States for their beliefs!
It's a sad day in America!
I read in a different article on this that the lesbians who started a lawsuit in this matter "didn't want the clerk to be jailed" but instead, they were seeking "a financial settlement!"
And so, it begins.
Yes it now begins
She's not being jailed for her religious belief, she's been jailed for not doing her job.
Titus 3-Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. 3 For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. 4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8 The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people. 9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
Very good
FYI-DEVOUT CHRISTIAN HERE..I FOLLOW TRUTH-I don't know about y'alls bible, but mine says-Romans 13:1-7(ESV)
13 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
But it's also written give God's what is God's.as long as the law of the land does not go against God
It also says give Ceasar what is Ceasars-these people are not Christians..they do not follow our faith...For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.
But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
1 Timothy 1-5But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussions,
We must obey God rather than man. Acts 5:29
Cant you read? God said to obey the law of the land and it's rulers..what is so hard about that? No where in my bible does it say to disobey because you do not agree. It says to avoid those foolish arguements and to seperate ourselves from evil...for what does the light have to do with the dark?
So you would send Jews to the gas chamber because the law told you to do so?
I am no ones judge jury or executioner-I would walk away from the situation and move on in my life of faith in Christ Jesus. I think she should have resined her position instead of starting a foolish quarrel about the law. This is nothing like killing someone. 1 Corinthians6: 14Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?16Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, "I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. 17"Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE," says the Lord. "AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN; And I will welcome you. 18"And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me," Says the Lord Almighty.
Frederick L Sanders-I see and understand the statement you are making. She could have resigned her position when that law passed- true. But I think the country-and the world-is in the position it is because so many christians just walked away instead of standing up and saying if we want our country to be saved our rights need to be acknowledged too . There is a time and a season for everything. Or have we forgotten Daniel? Certain things happen by way of Gods plan too....to wake up those who slumber to what is truly coming. Maybe she felt the nudge of the Holy Spirit to do what she did. And like Rich Taft above said, Gods own were brutally murdered in Germany. Is Corrie Ten Boom wrong for going against her government to save them and then being imprisoned? Was she foolish? Or was it Gods divine plan? We need to wake up. There is no time for complacency anymore.
As long as it doesn't go against God's word !
Really not amazing, biblical.
Lynell, her convictions to uphold God's law prevent her from doing her job. When she took this job gay marriage was not in place. If it was she, more than likely, would not have accepted it.
That would be just like a nurse working for a doctor who decides to start performing abortions to increase his revenue. Her convictions about killing innocent unborn babies would prevent her from doing her job.
This article refers to Kim Davis as DEFIANT. She is defiant...against SIN! She is not defiant against God, Whom she answers to. He is her vindicator.
"God's moral law conflicts with my job duties," Davis told the judge before she was taken away by a U.S. marshal. "You can't be separated from something that's in your heart and in your soul."
People began to chant "Love wins!" Really? This is not love the way God defines it in the Bible. Oh, I forgot...we don't care what God thinks. The un-elected Supreme Court redefined marriage, over-ruling His Law.
What about Kim's freedom of religion? And free speech?
She has not said one hateful thing! NOT ONE! She has stated "I promised to love Him with all my heart, mind and soul because I wanted to make heaven my home,"
She is being mocked because she is on her 4th marriage. Well, she just came to know Jesus and is making changes to please the Father. Should she just stay in her sin or repent and get things right with God? She CLEARLY has convictions to risk going to jail. We are ALL sinners saved by Grace!
She is among good company of Christians jailed for their convictions, both past and present. Think of the Apostle Paul and currently, dear Pastor Saeed Abedini.
Oh, you just wait! God will take care of this precious one! Very few people see what's happening here. We have lost our freedom to hold our convictions and not condone or participate what we do not believe in. If we disagree, then we, the Christian who honors God, are accused of not loving everyone. Well, hey, I love everyone but, like God, I HATE SIN. I hate sin in me and I hate sin in you and I hate sin in the country. Everyone, like Satan, twists things around to make it seem like holding up strong morals doesn't matter. Well they matter to those who actually have morals!!!!
I'm rejoicing because I know Jesus is just around the corner. Laugh all you want! This is in the Bible! READ IT AND WEEP BABY!
What ticks me off is that people expect us to shut our mouths while they blatantly defy God and bring this nation down and into judgement.
Let's kill more unborn babies and sell their body parts, support gay marriage and pedophilia, tell churches what they can and cannot preach from the pulpit, produce 80% of the worlds pornography, having the highest rate of adultery in the world along with addictions and massive debt, strip us of our religious freedoms and take part in dividing Israel. My GOD! THE LIST GOES ON AND ON!
MY LIFE MATTERS! MY KIDS LIVES MATTERS! YOUR LIFE MATTERS! GOD MATTERS! AND WHAT AMERICA DOES IS AFFECTING MY FREAKING LIFE BUT I'M JUST SUPPOSED TO CARE ABOUT YOU GETTING OFF ON SIN!!! THINK SODOM AND GOMORRAH! God set that place on FIRE with no survivors except Lot. His wife defied God and looked back when she was told not to and died, too. Noah took his family in the Ark as instructed by God and God shut the door. What do you think happened to everyone else? THEY DROWNED, BEING SWEPT INTO JUDGEMENT! DEAD. GONE! ALL OF THEM WHO SHOOK THEIR FIST AT GOD AND WANTED TO DO THINGS THEIR WAY! GOD DOESN'T PLAY! What do you do as a parent when your children defy or disobey you? You discipline them, if not, you don't love them! Sin brings death and separation from God which is why it is so serious!
The world laughs at this so called Christian nation. What a joke!
People are so blind. Don't you see what's happening here? She will not be the first person jailed for her faith. Life for Christians is about to change. But don't be fooled. It may look like things are getting bad for us but we serve a MIGHTY GOD!
Watch what takes place over the next 6 weeks during Shemitah when this nation is brought to it's knees like Israel was when it rebelled against God.
Know this for those of you who think I've gone over board and if you generally like me; I will be as one of those who are killed for my faith. That's how much I truly believe that JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. I'm not here to please you. I am here to preach the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION WITH BOLDNESS AND POWER!
We are living in exciting times! Things are about to get REAL...
She has free speech. She is choosing to express that speech on behalf of the government, against the oath that she swore. She is free to sit outside the courthouse and protest, but she is not free under the law represent the county in defying the SCOTUS ruling. Just as police officers cannot muder people, doctors cannot refuse to treat people, cannot abort babies without consent based upon their beliefs, she is not free under the law to do this. She is free to resign if she cannot truthfully uphold the oath she swore. Unless we desire persons in government to arbitrarily censor or attack Christians based upon their beliefs, we should not support Davies being successful in being allowed to continue in this.
I doubt if gay marriage licenses was part of the job description when she was hired.
We are republic and not a democracy. She's bringing attention to what's really taking place in this country, and that is a decline of morality and defiance to God. God's law is higher than man's.
David, I truly understand your argument. However, it is the injustice that concerns me. When justice is enacted equally and blindly then I would not be concerned. (Read Plato's republic) However, you have a ruling class who will use "justice" as a tool to persecute. Do you think it's ok for Lois learner to be placed on administrative leave? Why didn't this dear lady be placed on administrative leave with pay?
That sounds fine to me - indefinitely? At the county's expense? I think she has a conflict of interest that does not allow her to perform the duties which she swore an oath to do. A judge or jury trying someone for murder because they aborted a baby has to hold up the laws of the land regardless of their beliefs.
Fairly and blindly would permit a Muslim to refuse non-Muslim marriages on the basis of them not being valid to the, if Lois is allowed to refuse and refuse to allow her deputies. Pick any discriminatory practice, non-whites getting an education, women getting jobs etc.
That sounds fine to me - indefinitely? At the county's expense? I think she has a conflict of interest that does not allow her to perform the duties which she swore an oath to do. A judge or jury trying someone for murder because they aborted a baby has to hold up the laws of the land regardless of their beliefs.
Fairly and blindly would permit a Muslim to refuse non-Muslim marriages on the basis of them not being valid in their opinion/belief, if Lois is allowed to refuse and refuse to allow her deputies. Pick any discriminatory practice, non-whites getting an education, women getting jobs etc.
Yes, the conflict is her faith.
In the case of Lois Learner - she was the IRS lieutenant which used the IRS as a tool to destroy and harm political groups which diametrically opposed her and her bosses i.e. Obama's political views. In both cases conscious was involved - yet one pleads the fifth and is on administrative leave for over a year now. Yes, at our expense. One went to jail. Therefore, should not justice be blind?
Could you explain the last point of your argument please - not sure if I understand.
Oh I thought you meant the Kentucky county lady sorry. I think the difference is that Learner is an employee, Davis was an elected official. I don't know if some sort of relief from duty was available for Davis, but she was given the option to allow others to handle the licenses for her. Davis could have done a few different things to both not be involved in issuing licenses and avoid jail, but she refused, from what I understand. The judge who ordered it doesn't agree with the supreme court and wanted anothersolution than prison, but stood by his obligation to uphold the law.
And my point is exactly what you're saying, I think. If Davis as a government official can allow her sincerely held beliefs signifantly shape if and how she implements justice and the laws of the land, then what is to stop any government official doing...whatever they care to? There are those who believe immigrants, women, minorities, Christians, Muslims should have less rights than the law allows, or should be killed. I don't agree with them, exactly the same as I don't believe homosexuality or medically unindicated abortion is right in God's eyes. But the same laws that prevent a government representative, presently, from arbitrarily executing Christians when the law says that is illegal, also prevent them from preventing homosexuals from marrying when the law says they can. If that means I cannot serve in certain government positions, I'm ok with that. Jews won't touch dead pork flesh, Muslims might not want male doctors examining women, some Christians can't be GIs if the government can oder them to fight wars they consider unjust, and noone has to swear to uphold the law as a judge or allegiance to America/president if they wish not to. If they do swear, they understand that those oaths compel them to potentially obey laws or orders that they could disagree with.
Denise Carrera holding up the laws of the land was her job description, right?
God's law is higher than man's. HE says to submit to government, to expect persecution and be joyful in it, because in it we are identified with Jesus. And He said this through Paul during a time when they killed Christians for refusing to worship Ceaser and the pagan gods, not when merely resigning a job would solve the conflict, to put that in context.
Good points about being an elected official David. An oath is very serious and it just goes to show how messy our world is.
It shows how terrible the current president is regarding the oath he took to uphold and defend the constitution.
Denise ... I could not have said it any better. People need to wake up. Almighty God is about to shake this Whole Universe. Satan, Sin, Self and everything that Defies the Laws of God seems to be in Control. But according to the word of Jesus Christ in the Gospel of Matthew, this has to be, cause the end is NEAR...Romans 1 Written by the Apostle Paul under the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit... Explained how Men leave the Natural Use of a Woman Burned in their Lust one Toward Another... Women Change the Natural use... Women to Women Men to Men...God gave them up to their own Repobate Minds, to Uncleaness as they Dishonour their Bodies... Let's us Pray even for these, per adventure some may turn from their wicked ways before long. God Bless you. Keep loving your Lord. We will Pray for those who are taking a Stand.
Genesis 12:1-4 REV 20:11,12. Bye Bye
No remember shadra
No remember shadrac meshech and abendico they refuse a kings orders to bow down and worship an idol. God saw their way through it and they were delivered through the fire. I encourage you guys to read your bibles
This woman has a powerful testimony. Something supernatural is about to happen with her situation just like when those 3 were thrown in the fire and survived
Yes... God surely works thru Supernatural Ways... Superseded our Finite Thinking... He will Reveal what is Necessary for Us to Know. This Dialogue site we are Currently using is a God Given Blessing, we should Redeem the Time Here and Pray Earnestly for George and His Team, for Persecution will come, to all who put their Trust in the Lord God Almighty and our Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ (Yeshua) let's us Dialogue Wisely, lovingly and Prayerfully. Love you and God Bless you Richly.
What happened to getting fired for not doing your job?
She wasn't. She refused a perfectly legal marriage because she felt it was against her beliefs. Good riddance, I say.
Everything looks soooo easy from the Outside Looking in, let's be Kind to our Fellowman, after all, we do not know how much Pressure this Lady has endured. Remember Job!!! All his friends thought he was in the Wrong, even His Wife told him to Curse God and Die. His Reply... You speak like one of those Foolish Woman. Keep Courage in these Trying Days... If you are a BELEIVER YOU are Gonna NEED it for SURE.
Elected officials can't be fired. They can be recalled by a vote of the same people who elected them. Didn't happen. Apparently a majority of her peers had no problem with her decision. But that wasn't satisfactory to others.
If she were in fact the owner of the business then she would have a right do not issue the license... But she is not the owner she works for the state... She needs to do a job! I am a believer go to a Baptist Church believe Jesus is God in the flesh and died for my sins... This woman has been divorced four times... She needs to do her job and that's pretty much the bottom line
If you are a Baptist, then you know about grace. She repented and became a Christian after she did those things. It's the devil's job to be the accuser of the brethren.
The only thing I'm accusing of...is not doing her job. I don't work at a bar because I don't agree with alcohol. If she didn't agree with the decision then quit and move on...don't stop doing your job especially given the circumstances!
So why did you bring up her past? Sounds like you enjoy hurting this woman.
Sounds like your a liberal. We all have a past.
She had a choice. I believe she chose wrong. Your entitled to your opinion...that doesn't mean I have to agree.
She may have chose wrong from a legal stand, but what about moral?
What makes me sound liberal?
She could have resigned her position and sought employment elsewhere. This was her job...and her job title. If your unable to do your job in good conscience then work somewhere else.
So no civil disobedience, ever?
I'm not saying that...but, she had a choice. If it were really that important to me...I would have resigned and found another job...pick your battles. I think I would have passed on one I cannot win
But you would condemn her for her civil disobedience?
She went to jail because she broke the law...not because of her beliefs. I have condemned no-one
There is no law. The scotus issued a ruling. Only Congress can enact a law. While we're talking about breaking the law, what about mayors who declare their city a sanctuary and harbor illegal criminals? What about an attorney general telling immigration officials they cannot uphold the law and deport illegal aliens? What about a secretary of state who used her own personal email account for classified correspondence? I could go on for a long time. These laws were broken by elected officials. Where's the outrage about that? None of them were standing on Christian principles, they just chose to break the law. And got away with it. Seems this tolerance I hear about is a one way street.
What about all that? I think it's wrong...how about we stop talking bout it and do something about it?
I wish people would stop using those colors the wrong way those are GOD'S
The Colors of the Rainbow a very Sacred thing... God placed it in the Heavens as a Covenant after the Flood. Satan knows He has but a Short Time, so he's busy deceiving anyone He can. He is here in this Universe He's the god of it. His chosen Assignment... To Kill, Steal and Destroy. Our Assignment to Resist Him, with the Holy Spirits Help.... God Bless you
She is being jailed for disobeying the laws that her job required her to follow. Not for being a christian
Romans Chapter 1 is playing out
May God keep her strong and unwavering in her faith as she sets the example for the rest of us in the days ahead.
Amen... Let's pray without ceasing for her... The Apostle Peter was in Prison, the Church Prayed and God Intervened... God Bless You
No one in the 1950s or 60s would have even dreamt this could happen in the USA. Lord come soon.
Hey we all knew it was coming but we didn't know when. I'm expecting more...
As Caesar moves further backward down the moral slippery slope, we as 'Christians and Jews can expect the same historical treatment: jail, Bible confiscation, torture, public killing, maybe even for sport; however, the Bride of Messiah will begin to become purified and shine by those same actions!
Obama or Lois learner are not fulfilling or have not fulfilled their constitutional duties. However, you don't see the same individuals calling the same justice on them - I ask why! Lois learner is on administrative leave with pay no less! Maybe... if your political bent is "progressive" (another bastardized word) or it's ok not to fulfill your sworn duty.
And the Muslims are getting Catered To ??
Jail here is far better that eternal hell!!!!